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Old 08-21-2017, 08:54 AM   #1
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Do we have the worst minor league system in baseball?

I can't imagine one could be significantly worse


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Old 08-21-2017, 09:06 AM   #2
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Marlins are pretty bad. Same with Royals.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:14 AM   #3
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Marlins are pretty bad. Same with Royals.
I don't think the Royals had anyone in fangraphs' top 120 or so guys. Marlins with 1. Giants also suck. Arizona is garbage.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:37 AM   #4
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who is our top prospect now? Szapucki with like no service time?
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:42 AM   #5
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:49 AM   #6
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who is our top prospect now? Szapucki with like no service time?
Gimenez per fangraphs
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Nice, I don't even know our top prospect's first name
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:21 AM   #8
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What might a top 10 look like by season's end?
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Old 08-21-2017, 11:27 AM   #9
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How bad was our system when we acquired Santana? It’s all in the eye of the beholders. Farm system rankings and prospect lists are pointless, outside of fan interest
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Old 08-21-2017, 11:28 AM   #10
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They'll rank poorly because they won't have a consensus top 100 guy, unless all the rankers decide to push Andres Gimenez as that guy. But the depth of the system and some of the really high upside plays will make it where the system is better then given credit for, it just needs time to mature.
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Old 08-21-2017, 12:15 PM   #11
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Peterson is probably our #1 now
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Old 08-21-2017, 01:09 PM   #12
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They'll rank poorly because they won't have a consensus top 100 guy, unless all the rankers decide to push Andres Gimenez as that guy. But the depth of the system and some of the really high upside plays will make it where the system is better then given credit for, it just needs time to mature.
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Who are these "really high upside plays" you speak of?

Gimenez should get top 100 consideration, IMO. So he's obviously one.
Szapucki missing all of 2018 will ding his stock quite a bit, as it should.
Petersen is a solid backend rotation prospect. #3SP upside if all breaks right?
Lindsay missed time, again, and when he played he was all kinds of brutal
Vientos? Sure, all right.
Nido? Having a subpar season in Binghamton even taking out the first 3-4 weeks (4/25-8/19: .267/.320/.404/.723, 76/285, 19 2b, 3b, 6 HR, 24/45 BB/K)
Dunn (hurt, sucked when on the field)
Alonso (here's one where he's mashed but even he missed what, 40 some odd games?)

None of the college bats we took in 2016 have taken steps forward, outside of Alonso.
Tiberi (where the fuck IS Tiberi?), Woodmansee (don't look up his numbers), Paez (stalled so hard in A+ after crushing A ball as a college player should)

Has anyone heard from Anthony Kay? Is he even a thing?
Cameron Planck had season ending surgery before he even threw a pitch this year.

Juan Uriarte? 19 year old catcher having a great season in Kingsport. OK. .310/.370/.456/.827, 53/171, 11 2b, 3b, 4 HR, 10/26 BB/K

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Old 08-21-2017, 02:06 PM   #13
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I was mostly referring to Gimenez, Szapucki, Vientos and Lindsay, sure. Yeah, 2 of them are hurt but there's still crazy upside there. Other guys like Alonso might fit in there as well, though his prospect ceiling is likely a bit limited being a Right/Right 1B-only guy. I mean, that's 5 guys that could conceivably be on a 2019 top 100, IMO. Granted, it would take more health then Lindsay has shown to date. Most "bad" systems don't have that.

I just read that Kay threw off a mound recently (yesterday?), wonder if they might look to get him a few innings in the AFL this year.
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Old 08-21-2017, 02:13 PM   #14
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So overdramatic
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Old 08-21-2017, 06:40 PM   #15
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ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Who are these "really high upside plays" you speak of?

Gimenez should get top 100 consideration, IMO. So he's obviously one.
Szapucki missing all of 2018 will ding his stock quite a bit, as it should.
Petersen is a solid backend rotation prospect. #3SP upside if all breaks right?
Lindsay missed time, again, and when he played he was all kinds of brutal
Vientos? Sure, all right.
Nido? Having a subpar season in Binghamton even taking out the first 3-4 weeks (4/25-8/19: .267/.320/.404/.723, 76/285, 19 2b, 3b, 6 HR, 24/45 BB/K)
Dunn (hurt, sucked when on the field)
Alonso (here's one where he's mashed but even he missed what, 40 some odd games?)

None of the college bats we took in 2016 have taken steps forward, outside of Alonso.
Tiberi (where the fuck IS Tiberi?), Woodmansee (don't look up his numbers), Paez (stalled so hard in A+ after crushing A ball as a college player should)

Has anyone heard from Anthony Kay? Is he even a thing?
Cameron Planck had season ending surgery before he even threw a pitch this year.

Juan Uriarte? 19 year old catcher having a great season in Kingsport. OK. .310/.370/.456/.827, 53/171, 11 2b, 3b, 4 HR, 10/26 BB/K
not one impact player on system in same vain as thor harvery wheeler strawberry or doc when they where in minors.

the system is worst now than when omar took over in sept 2004. sandy and depo drafts yuck outside of conforto and fulmer thats 7 drafts and ifa periods. on ifa side only rosario been developed
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Old 08-21-2017, 06:47 PM   #16
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wouldn't flexen have had a shot at top 100 if he hadn't been rushed bc of rotation injuries? i'm assuming he pitches enough down the stretch to lose prospect status
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:57 PM   #17
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So overdramatic
I don't think so.

I want to believe in Lindsay, because IMO he's the biggest upside/guy who could be a star guy we have but he sucked donkey dick this year and then got hurt again. He's been hurt every single year. That's how he fell to us in the 2nd round.
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Old 08-21-2017, 11:00 PM   #18
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wouldn't flexen have had a shot at top 100 if he hadn't been rushed bc of rotation injuries? i'm assuming he pitches enough down the stretch to lose prospect status
his stuff hasn't been impressive so I'd say no way.
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Anyone who ever thought Fernando Martinez was going to pan out (after actually looking at his face) need never respond to prospect posts again.
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Old 08-22-2017, 07:45 PM   #20
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not one impact player on system in same vain as thor harvery wheeler strawberry or doc when they where in minors.

the system is worst now than when omar took over in sept 2004. sandy and depo drafts yuck outside of conforto and fulmer thats 7 drafts and ifa periods. on ifa side only rosario been developed
Haha, where's Omar a GM at now? That's right, he's the latin Steve Phillips (minus the extramarital stuff)
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