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Old 01-14-2019, 12:23 PM   #1
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Default Current 25 Man Roster (1/14/19)

We're less than a month out from P&C and things can still change, but there's obviously been a good deal of turnover to the roster.

Few, if any teams, have added 8 (possibly 9) new players to the team that figures to be available Opening Day.

1. Wilson Ramos
2. Jed Lowrie
3. Robinson Cano
4. Amed Rosario
5. Todd Frazier
6. Michael Conforto
7. Brandon Nimmo
8. Juan Lagares
9. Keon Broxton
10. Travis d'Arnaud
11. Jeff McNeil
12. JD Davis
13. Jacob deGrom
14. Noah Syndergaard
15. Zach Wheeler
16. Steven Matz
17. Jason Vargas
18. Edwin Diaz
19. Jeurys Familia
20. Seth Lugo
21. Robert Gsellman
22. Luis Avilan
23. Drew Smith
24. Luis Guillorme
25. Daniel Zamora

Spots 22-25 in Italics are just placeholders, although I'd expect Avilan to get a spot unless he absolutely bombs in ST.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:24 PM   #2
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Sad that Alonso isn't on the list...
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:26 PM   #3
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can we trade Vargas and Frazier for a starter? and I'd be surprised if Avilan is not on the OD roster
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:32 PM   #4
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I would expect an 8 man bullpen, since thats the norm these days, though it doesn't really change anything except putting like a Tyler Bashlor (or like Hector Santiago if they value a long-man instead) on in the place of Luis Guillorme (for now). But thats just nitpicking. And yeah, just sorta shows that theres still more work to be done on the pitching staff to me.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:43 PM   #5
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JD Davis gonna be last man in the pen so can have an extra bench piece
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:47 PM   #6
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How did you fit 7 infielders lol
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:52 PM   #7
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JD Davis gonna be last man in the pen so can have an extra bench piece
Can't imagine a scenario where he pitches more then 5-10 innings, tbh. I gave my thoughts on another thread, but he's not an MLB reliever. 92 mph is prob below average for a reliever nowadays, his breaking pitch is almost certaintly not above average, his command probably isn't either. How could they be when he doesn't pitch regularly? That idea is probably just pure mop up work where nobody truly cares if he pitches to a 7 ERA. He's not going to throw enough innings to forego an 8th reliever by any means.
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How often does the 8th reliever pitch anyway
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:58 PM   #9
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How did you fit 7 infielders lol
McNeil will likely spend a good deal of time in the OF and, although Lowrie can probably fake it there in a pinch, he's really not suited to play SS anymore, necessitating the inclusion of Guillorme or someone else who can spell Rosario when he takes a day off.
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McNeil can probably fake short once every 2-3 weeks
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Why waste a spot in Guillerme just so he can play once every few weeks?

Amed is gonna be at shortstop 99% of the time, sure if he gets hurt, then you need a more permanent back up


But I wouldn’t go nuts about not having a real back up SS on the roster
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How often does the 8th reliever pitch anyway
Nearly as much as the first 7. I mean, the Mets had 21 pitchers throw 10+ innings last year. And that was in a year our SP rotation mostly stayed healthy and they only really had 2 injuries in the bullpen (Swarzak/Ramos). A lot of that was just various 8th relievers on the AAAA bus. Your mix of Rhame/Peterson/Robles/Gagnon/Beck etc combined to pitch about a 100 innings, for instance.
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How’s avilan against righties?

Having him and Zamora in the same pen doesn’t seem like a good idea
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really need to add one more SP
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really need to add one more SP
I agree or at least two more good relievers so the need for Lugo in the bullpen is lessened
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I'd give Dowdy, the rule 5 pick a slight edge over Zamora/Drew Smith at this juncture. There's a strong chance he could be returned during spring training, but they took him for a reason and that probably gives him a leg up or a roster spot until its spring training actually starts.

If going with 13 position players (with the idea of JD Davis crossover potential) I would also sub in TJ Rivera or Dom Smith over Luis Guillorme - seeing as how they passed on bringing him back up in September for random dudes like Jack Reinheimer, the org seems to be down on him. Lowrie can play there and McNeil could fake it in a pinch - he played there for a few games in Bingo last year and has prior experience.
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I dont see how guillorme makes this team out of spring training.

Rajai Davis seems like a better bet given his veteran (ness)

Also dom smith?????
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And, must say, the bullpen isnt that good.
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I agree or at least two more good relievers so the need for Lugo in the bullpen is lessened
Lugo is not a Starter.
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And, must say, the bullpen isnt that good.
It really isn't. Lot of people are forgetting that the bullpen was garbage even with Familia in it last year. We really need at least 1 more quality reliever and a #5 starter to keep Lugo in the pen to make it a good one.
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