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Old 09-22-2018, 06:44 PM   #1
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It all doesn't matter if you don't get to the playoffs

1 hit vs some of their garbage pitchers is pretty pathetic though
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Old 09-23-2018, 02:37 AM   #2
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It all doesn't matter if you don't get to the playoffs

1 hit vs some of their garbage pitchers is pretty pathetic though
I hate it when people talk like this, and then by extension also "the Wild Card play-in game doesn't count as the playoffs", "just winning the Division Series is stupid, I'd rather they got the draft pick", "losing in the LCS is stupid, all that and not even a league pennant to put up", "why make it to the World Series and not win, the whole season's a waste"

Baseball more than any other pro sport is about the regular season, yet somehow all the "title or nothing matters" guys always seem to be baseball fans, typically not even Yankees fans (though Steinbrenner always talked like this), but fans mad that their team isn't the Yankees

Finishing above .500 is always better than not, and every playoff game played is better than staying at home.
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Old 09-23-2018, 03:32 AM   #3
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I hate it when people talk like this, and then by extension also "the Wild Card play-in game doesn't count as the playoffs", "just winning the Division Series is stupid, I'd rather they got the draft pick", "losing in the LCS is stupid, all that and not even a league pennant to put up", "why make it to the World Series and not win, the whole season's a waste"

Baseball more than any other pro sport is about the regular season, yet somehow all the "title or nothing matters" guys always seem to be baseball fans, typically not even Yankees fans (though Steinbrenner always talked like this), but fans mad that their team isn't the Yankees

Finishing above .500 is always better than not, and every playoff game played is better than staying at home.
The wild card thing always irritated me. Any stats from the play in game are not counted towards regular season totals, correct? Then that would mean the stats are accumulated after the season.. aka post season... aka playoffs....

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Old 09-23-2018, 03:36 AM   #4
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The wild card game setup is bullshit. It needs to be best of 3 or they need to go back to one wild card team.
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The wild card game setup is bullshit. It needs to be best of 3 or they need to go back to one wild card team.
Not disagreeing, just saying it's still a post season game no matter how badly people wanna bitch about it.
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Old 09-23-2018, 03:39 AM   #6
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Not disagreeing, just saying it's still a post season game no matter how badly people wanna bitch about it.
Im not disagreeing with that either
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Old 09-23-2018, 10:49 AM   #7
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The wild card game setup is bullshit. It needs to be best of 3 or they need to go back to one wild card team.
I like 2 WC. But I think they should play a best of 3 to determine who moves on.

Put them at a bigger disadvantage
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-Iím skeptical mariners would do it, but if itís there to be done, Iím in
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Old 09-23-2018, 10:51 AM   #8
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I like 2 WC. But I think they should play a best of 3 to determine who moves on.

Put them at a bigger disadvantage
I agree, but then the argument is you're making the division winners sit around and get out of rhythm, and it pushes a possible game 7 further into early November.
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WC 1 gets a double header at their place. If they split they play game 3 the very next day @ WC2
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-Cano is a way better player than Bruce, $112 million better?
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-Diaz is possibly best reliever in baseball, 4 years of control, -24 years old
-Cano and Diaz together are worth more than $112 million
-Iím skeptical mariners would do it, but if itís there to be done, Iím in
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Old 09-23-2018, 11:00 AM   #10
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WC 1 gets a double header at their place. If they split they play game 3 the very next day @ WC2
I'd be down for this.

Wild Card Double Header day!
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Old 09-23-2018, 11:13 AM   #11
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I agree, but then the argument is you're making the division winners sit around and get out of rhythm, and it pushes a possible game 7 further into early November.
I like it the way it is, Incentive to win the division.
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So on a serious note regarding WC games

Regular season ends 10/1
(I might have flipped NL/AL)
WC NL 10/2
WC AL 10/2

Division series game 1 10/3 - 10/5

So it wouldn’t be difficult to have the season end the last day of September

Do WC games OCT 1-3

Start the division series Oct 4
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-Cano is a way better player than Bruce, $112 million better?
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-Diaz is possibly best reliever in baseball, 4 years of control, -24 years old
-Cano and Diaz together are worth more than $112 million
-Iím skeptical mariners would do it, but if itís there to be done, Iím in
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Old 09-23-2018, 11:25 AM   #13
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I like it the way it is, Incentive to win the division.
Sorry if my team wins 100+ games and then loses to a team like the A’s who play a bullpen game for 9 innings... I’d be fucking furious

(Although I hope it happens to the Yankees this year, go A’s!)
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-Cano is a way better player than Bruce, $112 million better?
-Probably
-Diaz is possibly best reliever in baseball, 4 years of control, -24 years old
-Cano and Diaz together are worth more than $112 million
-Iím skeptical mariners would do it, but if itís there to be done, Iím in
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So on a serious note regarding WC games

Regular season ends 10/1
(I might have flipped NL/AL)
WC NL 10/2
WC AL 10/2

Division series game 1 10/3 - 10/5

So it wouldnít be difficult to have the season end the last day of September

Do WC games OCT 1-3

Start the division series Oct 4
You want to give the 2nd WC home field if they simple split a DH, which usually happens??
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You want to give the 2nd WC home field if they simple split a DH, which usually happens??
No that was part of my joking scenario.

10/1 WC 1 home
10/2 WC 2 home
10/3 WC 1 home (if necessary)

10/4 start divisional series
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-Diaz is possibly best reliever in baseball, 4 years of control, -24 years old
-Cano and Diaz together are worth more than $112 million
-Iím skeptical mariners would do it, but if itís there to be done, Iím in
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You want to give the 2nd WC home field if they simple split a DH, which usually happens??
I believe this incorrect. I remember a while back, Mike & the Mad Dog were saying this, and it turned out that it was about 50-50, and in fact very very slightly over 50% in favor of sweeps.
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Sorry if my team wins 100+ games and then loses to a team like the Aís who play a bullpen game for 9 innings... Iíd be fucking furious

(Although I hope it happens to the Yankees this year, go Aís!)
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No that was part of my joking scenario.

10/1 WC 1 home
10/2 WC 2 home
10/3 WC 1 home (if necessary)

10/4 start divisional series
This honestly sounds crazier to me than having a doubleheader. Under that scenario this year, you'd have the Yankees and A's flying across the country and between 2 different time zones 2-4 days in a row.
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Yolo
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Originally Posted by hammerhead View Post
-Cano is a way better player than Bruce, $112 million better?
-Probably
-Diaz is possibly best reliever in baseball, 4 years of control, -24 years old
-Cano and Diaz together are worth more than $112 million
-Iím skeptical mariners would do it, but if itís there to be done, Iím in
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I guess it’s choose your poison

Potentially lose in 1 game to an inferior team / win that 1 game and be able to start your #2 the next day

Play 3 games in 3 days in potentially 3 different time zones and have your #4 starting game 1
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-Cano is a way better player than Bruce, $112 million better?
-Probably
-Diaz is possibly best reliever in baseball, 4 years of control, -24 years old
-Cano and Diaz together are worth more than $112 million
-Iím skeptical mariners would do it, but if itís there to be done, Iím in
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